Science and Relativism

by Neil Rickert

I have been procrastinating on posting this.  I want to say more about truth and how it is actually used.  So I’ll start with a review of the book “Science and Relativism” by Larry Laudan.

I’ll note that the book was published in 1990.  I purchased it, maybe 15 or more years ago.  I recently returned to it for a second reading.

The author, Larry Laudan, is a philosopher of science.  I assume that he is semi-retired by now, but that’s just a guess.

In this post, I shall mainly refrain from expressing my view of the issues.  I plan a followup post where I present that.

What is relativism?

Broadly, relativism if the position that something is relative to something else.  And cultural relativism is that something is relative to culture and cultural traditions.  Most commonly, we hear of moral relativism.  However, when discussing science the issue typically has to do with scientific conclusions and scientific truth.

I’ll quote Laudan from his preface:

But it can be defined, to a first order of approximation, as the thesis that the natural world and such evidence as we have about that world do little or nothing to constrain our beliefs.  In a phrase, the relativists’ slogan is “The way we take things to be is quite independent of the way things are.”

Laudan is skeptical of relativism.  However he also admits that he finds it difficult to understand.  He mentions the philosophers Kuhn, Quine and Feyerabend as people whom relativists see as providing a basis for their view of knowledge and of science.

The format

The main part of the book is presented as a discussion between four philosophers of science.  They are, of course, discussing the status of relativism.

The four participants are:

  • Rudy, a positivist;
  • Karl, a realist;
  • Percy, a pragmatist;
  • Quincy, a relativist.

These participants fail to reach a conclusion, and this already highlights their many disagreements.

In writing the book, Laudan was not looking for a definitive conclusion on relativism.  Rather, he wanted to bring out what were the issue.

The issues

The six chapters of the book present discussion sessions on various issues related to relativism.  I will list the topic, perhaps in an abbreviated form, and briefly comment on the discussion for each.

1: Progress

What is scientific progress?  Is science cumulative?

The general view of science is that it grows; that it improves over time.  That is to say, science makes progress.  Kuhn, however, argued that as science solves new problems it sometimes loses the ability to solve other problems.

As the discussion proceeds, it is clear that the relativist does not see science as progressing.  The other participants do see progress, but they are unable to settle on criteria by which we would judge whether there is such progress.

2: Theory ladenness

It has been observed that scientific data is theory-laden.  That is to say, the data is not separable from the theory.

All participants agree that data is theory laden.  The relativist finds this particularly concerning.  As the relativist sees it, the theory affects what will be considered data.  And the data is used as evidence for the theory.  And that makes it look circular.

The other participants suggest that this is not a vicious circle.  The see the theory ladenness as reasonable, because otherwise science would not be able to go beyond ordinary data as described by our senses.

This session also gets into the question of pessimistic induction.  It is said that all scientific theories that have been sufficiently tested have been found false.  So therefore, by induction, all theories will turn out to be false.  Most of the participants are not persuaded by this argument.

3: Holism

The idea here, is that a scientific theory is a complex whole.  You cannot refute a single statement within the theory, because of the way that the statements are connected.  Likewise, you cannot confirm individual statements within the theory.

The relativist sees this as a particular problem.  If we cannot falsify or confirm individual statements, how can we he sure that this is good science?

4: The scientific method

Is there a scientific method?  Are there methodological rules which characterize science?

The relativist asks: “what is the rationale for the rules of the scientific method?  and what are those rules.”

There isn’t a good answer provided.  This is why Feyerabend has suggested that maybe voodoo or creationism could work just as well.  The relativist in these discussion brings up that same kind of problem.

5: Incommensurability

This issue comes from Kuhn, who suggested some incommensurability between different paradigms.  As expressed in the discussion:

two bodies of discourse — whether theories, worldviews, paradigms or what have you — are incommensurable if the assertions made in one body of discourse are unintelligible to those utilizing the other.

However Kuhn partially backed away the stronger form of that claim — that all assertions are unintelligible, and instead went with the weaker version of partial inintelligibility.

6: Social determination of belief

This is the question of whether scientific knowledge is seriously influenced by the biases of those who do science.

In one sense, this is obvious.  Scientists do form a social group, and that group is engaged is setting directions for science.  It is to be expected that the interests of that group will have some influence.  The question is whether they have an improper influence that could undermine the value of science.

As with the other issues, the discussion ends in a lack of agreement.

Summary

Overall, the book gives a pretty good picture of the concerns of the critics of science.  I did find it useful.

17 Responses to “Science and Relativism”

  1. Somewhat off the topic:

    As science depends on human observations, directly or indirectly, does science not have to be relative only to humans and no absolute truths can be expected from it?

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  2. When you look to your left you see something and when you look to your right you see something else. Why is it so?

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  3. Perhaps the meaning of my question was not clear. My question was not that why babies or any one looks to the left and right. My question is why babies or any one sees something to their left and a different thing to their right?

    Perhaps You would condescend to answer this question?

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  4. Thanks for your reply.

    O.K. That may be a good place to start:

    Why do we see anything at all?

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    • Vision is complex.

      It starts with our biology. To survive, we need things like food, water, etc. And, to improve our chances of survival, we need information about the world that will help us meet these biological needs.

      In effect, we must find ways of informing ourselves about the world. So it is a learning program. A newborn infant must learn how to see. Doubtless there is some initial primitive ability, but the child needs to find ways of tuning that to the world so as to improve the quality of information.

      If we learn to see, then everybody is going to do it a little differently. We start with similar biology, but how we manage to use that is what we have to learn. And since it is a little different for everybody, there isn’t going to be a “one size fits all” kind of explanation.

      As best I can tell, it works by learning to make useful distinctions, and then dividing the world up on the basis of those distinctions. Boundaries/edges are the easiest to detect. As the eye moves in saccades, the signal received makes a sharp transition as the direction of the eye crosses a boundary. So we divide up the world using those boundaries. And that gives us the objects that we are able to see.

      It mostly works by pragmatics — trying things out to find out what works best. Learning to see depends on a kind of trial and error process.

      As we learn to see, we adjust our methods to fit what we are seeing. The meaningfulness arised from the way that we learn and because we are learning for the purpose of getting useful information about the world.

      In my opinion, the conscious visual experience (or so-called “qualia”) are from the experience of our exploring and finding ways of retrieving useful information.

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  5. Thank you for your clear explanation.

    As I know that you have some interest in Kant:-

    Kant seems to say that phenomenon does not have any independent existence in itself and as he calls nature merely phenomena which has existence relative only to the perceiver or experiencer, then according to this what exists is noumenon (thing in itself) and not nature.
    The perceiver or experiencer has a part in making nature.

    So according to this science is wrong in thinking that nature exists prior to the cognizer or experiencer.

    Put another way, humans are able to perceive or experience only those aspects of reality in itself (thing in itself) for which they have the required faculties.

    So what human scientists call ‘Nature’ is not Reality as it is in itself but reality as it is cognized by humans.

    What do you think?

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    • I’ll start by mentioning that I am not an expert on Kant. Most of what I know about his philosophy is second hand.

      Human language presumably developed for people to communicate their experience and coordinate their activities. But now we are attempting to use it to discuss what is outside of our experience. So let’s recognize that there are difficulties with that.

      I take the view that there is a reality that is independent of us. And we interact with that reality. Our interaction is what generates the phenomena. So its not quite right to say that we study phenomena, because we need to recognize that we create the phenomena in our attempt to study reality.

      The perceiver or experiencer has a part in making nature.

      Yes, that’s fair enough.

      So according to this science is wrong in thinking that nature exists prior to the cognizer or experiencer.

      I would hesitate to use “wrong” there. Scientists have a working hypothesis which guides them. And they occasionally change that working hypothesis when their discoveries seem to show a need for such change. So the working hypothesis is not ultimate truth. But then there isn’t any such thing as ultimate truth.

      Put another way, humans are able to perceive or experience only those aspects of reality in itself (thing in itself) for which they have the required faculties.

      Yes, I agree with that. But keep in mind that we extend our faculties when we invent telescopes, microscopes and other forms of instrumentation.

      There could be a world out that that does not enter our awareness. Maybe their are fairies, goblins, etc but they do not act in ways that we can perceive. So we are unaware of them. I use fairies, etc just by way of illustration. I’m not suggesting that there is any reason to believe that they are present.

      So what human scientists call ‘Nature’ is not Reality as it is in itself but reality as it is cognized by humans.

      The remaining question is to what extent how we cognize is fixed by biology, and to what extent it is influenced by culture.

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  6. ( So according to this science is wrong in thinking that nature exists prior to the cognizer or experiencer.

    I would hesitate to use “wrong” there. Scientists have a working hypothesis which guides them. And they occasionally change that working hypothesis when their discoveries seem to show a need for such change. So the working hypothesis is not ultimate truth. But then there isn’t any such thing as ultimate truth.)

    Do you think that nature exists prior to the cognizer or experiencer?

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    • So according to this science is wrong in thinking that nature exists prior to the cognizer or experiencer.

      Science isn’t about truth. It is about methods that work. And the same methods would have worked before there were cognizers.

      Do you think that nature exists prior to the cognizer or experiencer?

      Reality exists prior to any cognizer or experience.

      I hesitate to use the word “nature” there, because it is hard to know what people mean by that.

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  7. What do you mean by “reality” ?

    What do you mean by “nature” ?

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    • That’s just about the whole problem right there. What we mean by “real” or by “nature” or by “exists” is far from clear. And the meaning might change from one sentence to the next.

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      • Neil, My question was not what “we” mean by reality ————-.

        My question was what ” you” mean by——-.

        Please answer the question.

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        • I’m not sure why you ask that.

          You introduced the terms “reality” and “nature” into the discussion. I have merely attempted to respond as best I can. I do not have precise meanings for those terms. I try to use them, as best I can, in ways that are consistent with what others say. I see both as relatively vague terms.

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